Does anyone have any arguments against this user that says anal sex is objectively unhealthy, abusive, and harmful?
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:21 am
I got into a debate and here's the full thread where I argued with this user named salty emo that kept telling me "vagina is designed and meant to be penetrated by a penis while anus/anal lining is not designed and meant to be penetrated, that's why anal sex is objectively unhealthy, abusive, physically/mentally damaging, and humiliating, demeaning and degrading to the receiver"; https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueGayMen/com ... dium=web2x
I also took screenshots of this user's comments to me; https://imgur.com/oyvNpM9
Because of his beliefs, this guy is in favor of making anal sex illegal; https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueGayMen/com ... dium=web2x
When I told him there's an is-ought gap, and that "just because the anus/anal lining is more prone to tearing and does not self-lubricate or whatever (fact, is), it does not mean the anus/anal lining should not be penetrated (ought)", he told me;
He also says one can't say "vaginal sex is not healthy", because "vagina evolved to be penetrated", here; https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueGayMen/com ... dium=web2x
And if you read the whole thread, here are the rest of what he said to me;
Does anyone have any arguments against the things this user said?
I also took screenshots of this user's comments to me; https://imgur.com/oyvNpM9
Because of his beliefs, this guy is in favor of making anal sex illegal; https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueGayMen/com ... dium=web2x
"I'm in favor of sodomy laws. Especially seeing as it directly affects me. I don't see a downside of making the thing that hurts me illegal.
Oh did you know "sodomy" often usually includes bestiality too? Might wanna be careful when you say you're against said law, some people might think you're campaigning for the right to fuck animals..."
When I told him there's an is-ought gap, and that "just because the anus/anal lining is more prone to tearing and does not self-lubricate or whatever (fact, is), it does not mean the anus/anal lining should not be penetrated (ought)", he told me;
"Nothing says the anus/anal lining SHOULD be penetrated. Let's look at this factors:
- Super easy to tear
- Almost always painful
- Poop literally comes from there
Does any of that scream "This orifice should be penetrated"? No, in fact, it pretty much says the opposite"
He also says one can't say "vaginal sex is not healthy", because "vagina evolved to be penetrated", here; https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueGayMen/com ... dium=web2x
"> "Let's apply your logic to straight sex that you seem to idolize. One could argue that vaginal penetration is not a "healthy sex practice" in itself."
Vaginal sex is literally how babies are made, the vagina is literally evolved to handle penetration, the anus is not. This does not work as an argument, you know fully well that the anus isn't supposed to be penetrated, and that the vagina is not comparable.
(It's also kind of shitty to women to compare the two, and also why I hate the term "boypu$$y")"
And if you read the whole thread, here are the rest of what he said to me;
"It's not about STDs themselves - the point I was making is that anal sex is far more likely to transmit STDs because the anal lining is so easy to tear.
The anal lining is not meant for penetration, where as the vaginal walls quite literally are meant to be penetrated.
(And before you start ranting, no, this does not mean all women SHOULD LIKE vaginal penetration. I'm purely speaking from a point of evolution.)
The vagina self lubricates and self cleans. It's not prone to tearing as easily. It is quite literally designed to have a penis in it, for procreation (duh) while the anus is not designed to have a penis in it.
The vagina is designed to be penetrated, and this didn't just happen at random. Vaginal lubrication not only helps to clean the orifice, but also aids in penetration and fertilization by allowing the sperm to travel easier.
So my point is - THAT'S part of the reason why anal sex is objectively unhealthy and physically/mentally damaging and 1. Is treated as a humiliating/taboo act, and probably always will be and 2. IS uncomfortable and humiliating and demeaning and degrading for the "bottom".
Anal sex is objectively and inherently unhealthy just like smoking, for example, is physically unhealthy. That isn't subjective, we know that people who smoke cigarettes long term often develop health problems.
Healthiness isn't moral. This isn't a matter of opinion. If I started cutting myself, it wouldn't suddenly be healthy because I told people it was.
Anal sex is unhealthy because of many factors. STD risk is just one of them. There is also the fact that it's high risk for internal injury, psychologically damaging, and socially seen as a degrading act. Then there's also the hygiene factor, too.
Anal sex is far more likely to transmit STDs, compared to literally any other kind of sex. There was a reason why the AIDS epidemic primarily affected gay men, and that reason was not "it was engineered to kill off the gays!" - it was because you were far more likely to get it from anal, through tears that led to the bloodstream, than any other way.
This isn't something I just came up with. Google it and you will see. Anal sex by far is the most risky kind of sex, both due to STDs but also internal injury.
See, the problem here is that you think I'm saying all this stuff from a place of pure, unexplained "intolerance", or "hate." I'm not. My beliefs are based on both personal experience and factual evidence"
Does anyone have any arguments against the things this user said?