Predisposition to AO?

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Re: Predisposition to AO?

Post by Samy » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:06 am

julietagc wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:09 pm
We are talking about a predisposition to anal sex, I did not say that this has to do with homosexuality

You said exactly that (in broken English):
julietagc wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:30 pm
I do not think that there is a genetic predisposition, there is no such thing as homosexuality, they are myths, the genes that influence sexuality are many combined, there is no one gene that makes you more predisposed to something

You also talk about "there is no one gene", when absolutely nobody ever suggested such a thing. Also, you have zero proof whatsoever, the reality is, nobody really knows about all of this. You speak about "facts", but science has wildly varied on all those subjects over the years, making several 180° turns, still not agreeing, and now only spouting vague "bio-psycho-social" generalities like you do here, which in reality mean: "we have no clue". The guys can't even agree on a virus, do you think they can agree on things like "where do homosexuality come from" or "where do predisposition for anal sex come from"? Come on. They just don't know, and you don't either. Just look at autism and how it went from: "it's because of how people are raised, no relation with biology whatsoever" to "it's very mostly a biological disease" (with actual facts to back that one up). Same with tons of other characteristics or diseases.

Also, notice how in "bio-psycho-social" there is "bio"? So you're just splitting hairs, really?

I'm talking about my experience to help someone, and you needlessly come contradicting me on my experience with a "I know better" attitude while missing the point, contradicting yourself, and in the end not saying anything really relevant, or even meaningful.

As for children privacy, you're lecturing someone who asks for help, boasting about your superior values and education, while not knowing much (if anything) about his situation. None of that is helpful. @FarmerDan made the same point while providing personal feedback about his own experience, and being much more tactful.

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Re: ¿Predisposición a AO?

Post by julietagc » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:18 pm

@Samy

The problem is that people who are not on the subject dont know how to differentiate a paper without verification from a study corroborated by the community, the media, the internet do not help much in that and they tell you to the scientists said X thing when they have only hypothesized and proved things without having finished and in the end, they believe what you believe.

What I have said does not contradict your personal experience, what I said is that with your experience you cannot know everything, because you are not aware of everything. The only one who talks about superiority is you, very offended. You just said you have that predisposition, you don't know why, you don't know where it comes and that's what I answered, I don't see the contradiction.

"bio-psycho-social" includes the term "bio" I don't know what you don't understand, talk about many genes combined, right? Well there you have the "bio".

About broken english: English is not my native language, maybe you would understand me better if we spoke the same language or maybe not, but it would be simpler.

As for privacy, I still keep what I said. we are not going to agree on it
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Re: Predisposition to AO?

Post by nightowl » Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:22 am

My Natalie's daughter is old enough that I have never had to take on step dad role thankfully. From what I understand her age group are more open to things like anal than mine or her mothers generation so I assume its something has crossed her mind.

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Re: Predisposition to AO?

Post by BBS » Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:48 pm

I appreciate the opinions added but I would like to emphasize that ideal family education was not the focus of the post. I understand all the reservations about what could characterize breach of trust and invasion of privacy but nobody knows the context of the story and the motivations for this decision (it was not shared because it is not part of the subject discussed).
We know the risks including the consequences. However, we decided together that the consequences of a breach of principle would be preferable to damage if our suspicion were confirmed. Obviously if we reached this point it was not out of mere useless curiosity, but because we had sufficient and justifiable elements to take this step and protect her.

Yes, I recognize with some regret (her mother mainly) that the lack of sincerity about her intense sex life may indicate some failure on our part. I didn't need it to be hammered in our head.

I brought what happened for discussion to provoke reflections that started in my mind, because her mother followed the same course in her youth.

Anyway, unfortunately the thread of lies will need to continue so that she doesn't know what we did. My wife wants to speak openly to guide her better, but I don't think it's a good idea. It is not an easy decision.

I'm sorry for the broken English because it's not my first language.

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Re: Predisposition to AO?

Post by Samy » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:29 am

@BBS has your stance on AO predisposition evolved thanks to this thread? I'd be curious to know what you think of this aspect of the discussion.

You say she has an "intense" sex life, not only that she is anal-centric. Was it the case of your wife?

Being AO causes a huge boost of libido if it's practised with clitoral denial, that may be the cause?

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Re: Predisposition to AO?

Post by julietagc » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:08 pm

@BBS
Do not take what was said as hammering your head, take it as advice and views of what you said.
The dialogue between her and her mother could be good but it depends, if her mother was never like that it could be strange that now she will start to be so out of nowhere. It also depends on how she does it, where she focuses and the personalities of both.

As I said before, there is no predisposition, everything is formed by the three factors that I said combined, what your daughter does now is hers, as long as she has tools on how to be careful she can experience anything sexually speaking.
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Re: Predisposition to AO?

Post by analsexonly » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:12 am

While there may not be predisposition in the sense @julietagc is referring to, there are factors that can transfer genetically—some people feel more pleasure or can orgasm more easily from anal rather than vaginal due to physiological variation, and the same with increased ease of anal muscle elasticity or muscle control due to physiological differences from person to person.

Those factors can make it likely that multiple people across generations would end up more inclined to enjoy anal vs. vaginal, and I've anecdotally heard of similar things—Adriana Chechik, who is well known for her hardcore anal scenes, including double and triple anal, says her mother talked to her about it after she started doing porn and shared that she'd always liked anal too and had similarly found it really easy to do and enjoy.

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Re: Predisposition to AO?

Post by julietagc » Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:56 pm

@analsexonly

There's not even a gene for sexual orientation what you call "are factors that can transfer genetically" Genes are only codes, which give instructions that create amino acids, these embedded amino acids form proteins, the proteins that form different parts of the different cells of our body.

Our tastes are given more by chemical interaction, yes any of these proteins can be in those chemical structures, but do you think it really gives you a tastes or predispositions so simple, No, there is much more involved, the epigenetic factors, the phenotypes, not just the genotypes that would be the most basic of all, and it is not even always expressed, since the environment limits that expression in addition to the relationships of resistance and dominance between genes.

Physiology can vary in a thousand ways without touching genes, but as far as pleasure is concerned it is something more mental than physiological, it is something more in neurotransmitters than genetic, it is the same reason why we feel pleasure for other non-sexual things.

There is one more point, tastes vary, change, would your genes be changing? or your physiology? I dont think so.

I would not take anecdotes as a basis to affirm something like that or the world of porn as an example.

I wish it were so simple to explain human sexuality by genetic writing.
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Re: Predisposition to AO?

Post by Samy » Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:31 am

For millennia, humans have cross-bred animals to encourage behavioural characteristics. Temperament and behaviour related to breeds are extremely well-known and documented and, most of all, absolutely obvious to anybody. There is also obvious proofs to IQ, mental health, behavioural patterns, etc. being related to genetic lining.

Stop being silly.

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Re: Predisposition to AO?

Post by LuvMyWifesAss » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:25 am

There could be something to the theory. My wife is of Portugese descent. Her grandparents on both sides are from Brasil, where anal sex has been practiced as a form of birth control for hundreds of years. We know for a fact her mom and dad had anal sex on the regular. So, it's conceivable to me, there could be a genetic component.

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