Is anal sex too dangerous, making it unhealthy and absurd to engage in?

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SoSad
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Is anal sex too dangerous, making it unhealthy and absurd to engage in?

Post by SoSad » Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:53 am

There is too much stigma attached to anal sex. Among gay men with internalized homophobia, it is called "the most dangerous hobby". There are http://man2manalliance.org/ and http://g0ys.org/ websites promoting the idea that anal sex is not pleasurable and not worth it because it is the riskiest sexual activity and requires unnecessarily long preparation. G0ys, as they call themselves, are generally anti-anal. I don't know if there are any sources debunking these claims. If you know, please share them with me. From man2manalliance and g0y: https://imgur.com/7B0kPqm
The anus is not designed to be invaded. It contains feces and heaps of E Coli bacteria. It’s an exit point for toxic waste, not an entry point for Willy Wiener.

Women develop urinary tract infections because their anuses are a very short distance from the opening of their urethras. E Coli does that.

The g0ys are challenging the anal ethic.

Because G0YS, -by our very nature, find the entire notion of AnalSex in any form to be dirty, dangerous, degrading & damn-un-masculine; -By shunning casual sexual encounters & completely rejecting AnalSex, G0YS avoid the very perils that spread +98% of ALL STI's/STD's among men! Among g0ys, STDs/STIs are virtually nonexistent compared to the STD/STI figures for the GAY-male community (which, according to the Red Cross - is +4000% higher than the general population)! So, while "GAY"-men are plagued with STDs/STIs; - G0YS are NOT!

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The erotic pleasure in anal penetration is so minimal, and, when joined with promiscuity, the dangers anal presents to its practitioners and the community so great, that it's difficult to conceive of a practice more ruinous or less enjoyable taking center place in a sexual subculture.

These dangers, of which HIV/AIDS is the best known, but which include hepatitis B and C, syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, the human papilloma virus, herpes, and a host of other pathogens, will persist even after AIDS has been cured or can be prevented through vaccination.

And more anally-transmitted diseases most certainly await discovery.

For anal penetration is an exceptionally efficient mode of disease transmission, and we can be sure that pathogens will continue to find an infective niche in anal.

In addition, no magic or wishful thinking can transform either the anus or the rectum into genital organs, nor can the feelings experienced by someone being penetrated anally be compared to those of genital stimulation.

Further, anal penetration subjugates one of the participants to the other, effectively emasculating him, turning him into a pseudo-woman, a proxy in a heterosexualized form of contact. This is an inherently unequal act, epitomized by its tedious terminology of "tops" and "bottoms," which is unmindful of the basic human need for a shared experience without pain and with dignity.

Whereas Frot, phallus-against-phallus contact, is the acme of sexual activity between Men because it's focused on that which makes Men Masculine, namely their genitals -- their Manhood -- rather than their organs of fecal excretion.

And there's a subreddit dedicated to these people who are against anal sex: https://old.reddit.com/r/g0ys/comments/ ... y/fdga0ad/
You're right that nothing is truly harmless. Even frot and mutual masturbation has theoretical risks. However, I call them harmless because that risk is low enough to be negligible.

As such, there's no anal activity that comes close to frot, mutual masturbation, and other like acts in being low-risk. Yes, there are certain anal acts that pose relatively less risk compared with other anal acts. Having said that, in the big picture, any kind of anal play is high-risk. They might vary slightly in intensity of their risk, but they are all objectively high risk.

> "Fecal matter is almost omnipresent in human spaces."

That’s true. However, the concentration of that matter is different. The concentration and number of fecal bacteria on a table or door handle will always be lower than the bacteria’s source (the anus).

Doing anal play safely takes lots of preparation and precaution. It takes far more effort than vaginal sex, and certainly much more than frot.

If it takes so much energy to make safe, when does the precaution needed become absurd? When exactly does the preparation needed become too ridiculous to be practical?

Most importantly, if that preparation is too extensive to make sense, is the act worth doing to begin with?

https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/com ... &context=3
http://man2manalliance.org/crw/frot/not.html

https://www.webmd.com/sex/anal-sex-health-concerns#1

https://www.healthline.com/health/healt ... e-safe-sex

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/lif ... 743519.cms

WebMD and Healthline are written by health professionals, the Times of India is a respected newspaper, and the M2M Alliance page is extensively sourced.

> "Any sex without proper preparation can be risky, btw."

What sex act requires extensive protection from physical injury like anal sex?

And what I specifically mean by dysfunctional: it causes physical injury every time, carries an extremely high risk for STDs unmatched by other acts, and yet is constantly promoted as valid. Is sex supposed to be so risky? When does the risk become absurd?

Even "gay" doctors (as mentioned in the M2M Alliance article) say that there's no physiological basis for anal orgasm.

From the M2M Alliance link, as it quotes a "gay" doctor: "Most of the nerve endings that sense pleasure are at the outside of your anus or within the first two inches. The rest of your rectum and colon do not have nerves that sense pleasure. While many will disagree with me, there is no physiological basis for most of the pleasure you derive higher up in your colon. There is definitely a psychological pleasure."

https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/com ... &context=3
Don't hierarchies of risks exist? In that case, how high does anal rank in that hierarchy? Which level should be marked as unacceptable risk?

https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/com ... &context=3
Anal is gross. You always make contact with fecal matter during anal, even if it's trace amounts. Do you dispute that?

https://www.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/com ... &context=3
You can believe whatever you want. You can believe the Earth is flat, the sky is purple, and that you can grow 50 fingers. But is it based on fact?

In this link, feces is considered a biohazard, which means it can be dangerous to your health.

https://www.aftermath.com/content/which ... iohazards/


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Re: Is anal sex too dangerous, making it unhealthy and absurd to engage in?

Post by canadianbuttluvr » Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:21 pm

Is anal sex a risky sexual activity? Yes, in comparison to other forms of sex. But like any form of sex, the key is to manage the risk. To be clear, anal sex can be very pleasurable for the receiver so the key is to communicate and go slowly. But the fact that anal sex is the riskiest of all sexual practices, combined with the fact that the receiver has to be totally trusting of their partner is what makes the act that much more erotic.

Any form of sex can be risky. But people are routinely having oral and vaginal sex. And there like with anal you take the proper precautions to ensure everyone has an enjoyable experience.

My wife and I have anal sex at least once a week for probably the last 7 years. Her prep is minimal (just regular washing and not when she needs to use the bathroom), we have never used a condom and I have always ejaculated into her. She almost always orgasms, I have never had any issue with infection, nor have their been any unwanted accidents.

As a man, anal sex with my wife is the ultimate in terms of eroticism and the strongest orgasms. But more importantly my wife enjoys it too and never had an issue (aside from the occasional stomach issue the next day which is becoming less and less). On the weekend, I fucked my wife in the ass but because the position was a bit difficult, my orgasm wasn’t super strong. After I ate her out she wanted me to fuck her ass again in a position which was more comfortable for me cause she enjoys me orgasming very hard so I entered her again and she orgasmed again before I did!

Finally, my wife and I are in a monogamous relationship where we have only ever had sex with each other but certainly if that weren’t the case then condoms and safe sex practices are a must.

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Re: Is anal sex too dangerous, making it unhealthy and absurd to engage in?

Post by Samy » Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:33 pm

This is completely absurd. Anal is an old and extremely mainstream sexual activity, there is tons of data on it, and it's nowhere near risky in itself. Do we really have to have all this nonsense here again?

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Re: Is anal sex too dangerous, making it unhealthy and absurd to engage in?

Post by amaizeg » Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:49 pm

Where do I begin :roll:

This is a really good resource which pulls no punches on technicalities https://maxprivate.net/anal-articles/

Also, yeah, anal sex requires preparation and is difficult for the untrained and can be dangerous if done wrong, but isn't that the case for everything pleasurable worth doing.

Doing sports requires training and is difficult for the untrained and carries risk of injury when done wrong and has a much higher risk of accidents than anal sex. Yet being fit and being able to do feats of sportive achievement feels great and makes life more enjoyable and healthy. You can say the same about anal sex.

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Re: Is anal sex too dangerous, making it unhealthy and absurd to engage in?

Post by roshnikhanna » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:14 am

Anal sex is perfectly healthy and safe in both the long and short term. As with vaginal sex (penis-in-vagina sex), there's a very small risk of leakage and prolapse (when your pelvic muscles weaken and cause organs to slip down) over the course of a lifetime. Anal sex can also aggravate existing hemorrhoids.

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